According to Deron, CKY have stopped the feuding and the silent treatment. The fight is over, and CKY are still a band, just in case anybody is still interested.

I'm not.

From Joe Frantz:
"Yes, things are cool... Life is hard on the road, and Deron has a wife and child (stresssssss), and looks like things got a little heated. What friends don't fight sometimes??? Anyway, the CKY guys are cool with eachother and all is well with the word! I'm stoked, because it would have been a *beep* way to end a great f*ing band!"

I gotta say I am disappointed, lol. I had assumed this would be the end. I was wrong. I still bet this will be the last CKY album though.

But I guess me being disappointed is bitchy so let's be happy instead yayz =D

Wednesday, November 21, 2007

thanksgiving
"hey all...ive been away for a while straightening some stuff out...today im one month sober and have never felt better in my life seriously. for a couple weeks i went through major depression withdawling from drugs and now im in the middle of trying to move the family into a bigger house and ready to come back stronger than ever. its not going to be hard for me to stay clean and that is quite a relief for me. thanks to everyone for their concern and anyone that wrote in with support. no more drama no more negativity. its good to be back. have a great holiday
deron"

Question:
Hello fucks. How are you?
asked by Stewlil on 11/20/2007

Answer:
feeling great...never better!
answered by Deron on 11/21/2007

So Deron is clean and sober, and posting on Ask CKY again. He has also deleted the MySpace blogs that were dissing CKY and discussing the drama. Good news? It must be just around the corner =)

...obviously I still think that if he goes back out on tour and ends up crashing again (yearly meltdowns anyone?) that he's gonna have to make some serious changes. I am skeptical because there's only so many times you can hear him say that he's sorted out now only to watch him fall apart again. And we all know one month sober doesn't mean shit, come back in a year Deron and tell us how you're doing then.

Honestly I love and respect the man but if he does what he did last year, takes one measly month off and thinks that everything is fine, then he's a moron and my patience will start to wear thin. Sort it out for real please Deron, for your own sake!

Things that are slightly making me squee right now:
I didn't even know Chad wanted to fight me, I'm not surprised though, it was obvious he wasn't pleased to see me. Kinda funny since I was not only there to hang with Deron but also to show my support for CKY. For the record, everyone else, crew included was cool to me. And I harbor no ill fellings for Chad what-so-ever.

Deron, I got your back dude, you know that. The dvd button broke all on it's own! I was there, ha ha! And don't worry, I won't let anyone try to just "get rid of the body"...
Posted by Risha on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 2:59 PM

^^just because yay, WUB wub! Hahaha. I think it's cute that Risha is being all "I got your back yo", makes me happy because yeah, yay for this band =D

( EDIT: And even Luke fucking Jaeger is getting in on the WUB wub! )

I NEVER DELETED ANYONES QUESTIONS.
Posted by World Under Blood on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 11:18 PM

^^just because I am inclined to believe him and that is yayz mature Deron FTW =)

Okay other stuff...umm...I feel really weirdly guilty even thinking this, but...I have had my Deron playlist on constantly for the last couple of days and it's all good (This End Up is really fucking good, I've not seriously listened to them before but I'm going to now!!), I love everything that Deron does, we all know that. But the IDR album...umm...songs have been coming on from that and they just don't feel...I mean maybe it's just me, but Attached At The Hip, Sporadic Movement, those kind of songs are sounding kind of...soulless. Which is weird. But I mean there's DEFINITELY a HUGE difference in energy with World Under Blood, when that shit comes on it's crackling with passion, but I always thought CKY was like that too until...I don't know. I need to listen some more but right now I'm really not feeling some CKY songs, like the emotion just isn't there. Technically they are fun bouncy songs but it feels very flat, join the dots play these notes kind of thing. And I wouldn't have expected that from Deron and also because usually I can spot a soulless band from the get-go, it's why I hate Iron Maiden, a fact I'm sure I have repeated many times, but anyway. All of y'all go away and spin all 3 CKY albums in order (I will at some point) and tell me if you think IDR sounds a bit empty. It could just be the production, I don't know. And it's not every song. Mainly AATH, Plastic Plan, ICS and Sporadic I think. Bleh.

Also I had a dream last night that I had tickets to see Deron solo...i.e. he wasn't with CKY...hahaha. And he sucked because he did all bad covers and he wasn't even playing guitar just singing, and my dad said he was rubbish but I defended him even though he clearly was rubbish, hahaha.

Does anyone have or is planning to get the Hotdog Casserole DVD by Raab? I kinda wanna check it out because it has Felissa and Deron in it and it would be interesting also to see the CKY crew without Bam and Dunn (as Frantz puts it) but I dunno if I wanna spend the $$$ just for that. I'd rather download it or hear about it from someone who's seen it first. Although in all honesty I probably will buy it at some point. And I'm sure I will buy Minghags too. Because I can be really snotty about Bam but the fact is I fucking love Haggard, so.

"it was chad's idea to do side projects, and when his didnt pan out he changed his mind."

Ya know what I think? This kind of feels like Vern all over again. In terms of this..."as a member of the band, he wasnt contributing. musically, he wasnt asked to contribute and he joined on understanding that...i think eventually he couldnt handle that. but he has never written a song in his life." That was said by Deron about Vern.

...and it just seems to me like, when has Chad ever contributed musically to CKY? When Deron and Jess met him he was working as a producer or an engineer or something. And Rudy + Blitz...okay, that's like all Chad has really done musically as far as I know. And the guy is 5 years older than Deron, yet you look at Deron's band history and you see This End Up who did 3 or 4 demos, then Foreign Objects into oiL into CKY...the guy never stops. But Chad? Tell me, what does Chad do??

Deron writes all of the music for CKY, always has, and I'm thinking that Chad can't handle that. Chad wants to prove that he is a legitimate musician as well (although I have ALWAYS had my doubts...way back when I used to diss Chad's abilities on the forums but so many people stood up for him and I loved CKY so you know what, I accepted his ability and his personality and he grew on me...but right at the beginning I thought Chad was EXTREMELY arrogant and you know what they say about first impressions...) Anyway, Chad is trying to prove that he can branch out and write music for himself...and failing because where are Chad's side-projects??

And so Chad gets more and more frustrated because he's unable to create, and obviously he's gonna be jealous of Deron because that man is fucking DRIVEN. And World Under Blood was just the final straw.

IT'S ONLY A THEORY but I think it makes sense.

You could say I shouldn't be blindly supporting Deron but fuck, enough people were ready to blindly support Chad the instant he talked shit on Deron. And I remember shit like ""for 12 years i have been there for derons best years and his worse years and put up with bullshit that i cant even believe sometimes - all for the sake of the band." from Jess last summer and I was NOT happy with the phrasing of that AT ALL...it's always been Deron for me. Chad loses. And I have been disappointed in Jess with the statement I just posted, and if it's true what Deron says happened the other night.

So yes. Deron for the fucking win.


ETA: Have calmed down some. More importantly, have been listening to my Deron playlist. Alright, so there is something about CKY that I know is not just Deron. Chad has some input. It does sound so fucking good. I semi-take back what I said.

BUT the situation at the moment does seem to be that Deron is willing to apologise and doesn't want to leave the band, but the other side (i.e. Chad right?) won't accept that right now. So we are waiting on Chad to back down.

And I still think Deron should carry on with CKY without him. For his own sanity and peace of mind.

And weirdly enough I haven't been at all tempted to write slash yet...

DERON QUIT CKY. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

More news as I get it. Will post thoughts later. Am still reading through the forums.

...

THE OFFICIAL WORD:

fuck you I don't need no cut, this is such a big deal!!



Question:
fuck you chad!!!!! you are too old to be jumping off shit on stage. see what happens when you try shit like that? u get fucked up and have to cancel shows you mother fucker. fuck you!!!!

asked by the biscuit on 10/21/2007

Answer:
fact of the matter is, yes, i broke my foot at the gig at pops in st. louis and now cant stand on it.. so fuck you! what's really going on is, deron miller has quit CKY to pursue his own band. jess and i are continuing on with CKY. your well wishes would be far more encouraging at this point. ~

answered by Chad I Ginsburg (CIG) on 10/21/2007


Question:
Chad, if Deron has quit CKY then thats his loss. Fact is, I'll support CKY till the day I die no matter what. And I know theres legions of fans who will do the same.

asked by listen2cky on 10/21/2007

Answer:
that's the attitude jess and i want to hear! we, don't wanna let CKY die and won't. we are in a bind right now and we will sort through it with diligence and balls. we are NOT quitters. ~

answered by Chad I Ginsburg (CIG) on 10/21/2007

MY VIEWS
[in comments:]
"I am slightly in shock, but weirdly calm nonetheless.

Honestly, it's more about Deron than CKY for me. So if he is happy and continues to make music...I am happy.

It's been coming for a long time...there were rumours of tensions as far back as 2005.

So I just want Deron to do what's best for him.

It still isn't sinking in though...

=/=/=/"

&

"Yes, the worst thing for me is knowing I will never see them live again as a whole band...and the new album, I so hope that material doesn't get scrapped...

and someone was supposed to pick me up the live album on friday...oh god that'll be so weird to see...

I kind of wish I was crying...this was always my worst nightmare but now that it's happening I'm just relieved Deron is alright, you know? Like alright enough to walk away and not be pushed, or leave via rehab or anything like that.

I don't know when it'll hit me though..."

[on the forum:]

"Things haven't been right for a long time...this time 2 years ago there were tensions and talks of breaking up, and we all know about last summer. And by all accounts doing WUB has made Deron a lot happier. So I am not surprised.

CKY I don't think should carry on under that name without Deron. I am glad that Chad and Jess want to keep making music together but it will not be CKY and they shouldn't pretend it will be. Maybe they shouldn't even play CKY material after this tour. Because honestly Deron did write 90% of guitars, lyrics and bass.

I would rather Deron be as happy as he can be than carry on in CKY just for our sakes. It is just a band and we have a 3-album legacy.

I'll definitely keep following Deron's career if he stays in the industry, and I'll keep an eye on what remains of CKY.

It sucks and it's unprofessional to quit in the middle of a tour but I can understand it if things were really bad for Deron. And I for one support him and hope that things work out positively for all involved.

The saddest things are that I will never get to see CKY live again after waiting 2 years in hope. And it will be really bad if the material written for the 4th album is scrapped.

RIP CKY =("

[in email to Deron:]

"Subject: Some support
To: xcampkillx@aol.com

Deron,

I value you personally above the entity that is CKY. I really really hope
that you stay in the music industry because you're a creative mastermind
and I love the music that you have been producing over the years. But as
far as CKY goes, I am glad that you are taking the steps to make yourself
happy. CKY was 90% your input as far as I am concerned. This can't have
been an easy decision as many people will understandably be shocked, hurt
and angered by this. But the decision was yours to make and I for one
will support you to stick by it.

Obviously I'm just a fan and I don't really know you but to some extent I
feel like I do, and I honestly care about your happiness more than the
music. It seemed obvious to me that emotional and mental problems have
been making themselves known for you increasingly over the last 2 years or
so, and it also seemed obvious that World Under Blood has been much more
an expression of what you really want to be doing. Someone with your
talent deserves to make the absolute most of their ability and get the
most enjoyment possible out of it, and I believe that World Under Blood
does that for you. All three of the songs so far absolutely blow me away.

You're gonna get a lot of shit from CKY fans but hopefully amongst all of
the negativity you will find enough messages of support like mine to make
it bearable. Your own happiness and your family is the most important
thing, don't let it get to you if anyone tries to guilt-trip you. You
don't need to care about letting anybody down. It's only a band and they
will get over it, but you need to keep yourself happy and sane. It's your
life, live it how you want to!

Love you lots Deron and I can't wait to see you back out on tour, whenever
and with whoever that may be. Your music will be your legacy.

From Connie (UK)"

That's pretty much how I feel right there. Not as devastated as I always thought I would because as far as I'm concerned right now I still have Deron and World Under Blood and that's the most important thing. Deron Miller was CKY to me. I am just hoping beyond hope that he doesn't quit the music biz altogether. I think that would be very hard to get through. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have even the tiniest hope of seeing him live on stage ever again.

...and I mean, Deron has seemed so much happier this tour. BUT he has also been hanging out with the guys after shows less by all accounts. I suppose it takes finding happiness to really get perspective...if World Under Blood AND more importantly his beautiful daughters makes Deron happy, he will be realising that CKY DOESN'T. If he was happy in the off time writing and being close to home and now this tour is dragging him down, well...can't blame the man. If something in your life is toxic you cut it out, right? And hey, James Murphy blames Chad. The Deron/Chad relationship has never been the best...it's a clash of egos more than anything. And I'd hate for anything to be dragging Deron down. If any of this is true I'm happy he is getting the fuck out of it. Because for the last 2 years he has been cleaning up at home and getting better, then going out with CKY again and slowly regressing...the drinking, that lonely look in his eyes...I just want him to be happy because he's more than that dude in my favourite band, fuck, they were my favourite band for more reasons than just the music. And I have full faith that anythin Deronputs his name to, I will love <3

To all of you hit hard by this, I reach out to you. Other people might sneer at us but this is a huge deal to the fans and we have to help each other through it *hugs*

Everyone keeps telling me that I've lost weight, but I haven't at all. Huh.

Going back to Uni hopefully this weekend...I'm still really scared about a lot of things. But I have to go back sometime! I just realised that I was supposed to sign some form way back in May and I don't think I ever did...I hope it doesn't fuck anything up, I still seem to be enrolled for all the right things...

Me and my mum were talking about what star signs our favourite Winchester boys would be, and at first I was like "Well Dean's obviously an earth sign and Sam is an air sign", then she said "No, Sam is more like a Cancer" and I was all "Well Jared Padalecki is a Cancer" then we decided that Dean is really more of a Pisces and duh, Ackles is a Pisces. So I concluded that they must be shitty actors as they are just playing themselves, haha. Although it's more my mother that puts Dean as a Pisces, I still think earth sign...how irrelevent to anything, haha.

I'm kind of burning myself out on the new HIM album and it isn't even officially out yet! (except in Finland from today.) I better stop listening to it now...

OMG, old CKY shit! I lost all of this stuff ages ago and now I have it back! Oil, omfg! It might just be that time of the month, but Deron's vocals on 'Drag Me Down' are strangely sexy... and omg, This End Up Myspace, videos of teenage Deron singing and he's wearing shorts and fucking bouncing and squeeeee! I need to find the time and space to sit down and properly watch these things and just melt over them. It suddenly feels like I have no time since tomorrow is for packing and once in Lancaster I don't even know if I'll have the internet straight away and my laptop up there needs fixing and there are books I don't have yet and and and...bah! Not enough time to rediscover all of this great music! OMG, Death's 'Leprosy' album! And and and My Dying Bride! I haven't heard 'The Dreadful Hours' in forever and I downloaded it so now it's on my iPooooood, which hates me because I overuse and abuse it but I <3 it like woah...major downloading kick today because I got so sick of not having half my music. Only 2 or 3 Opeth and MDB albums = insanely wrong. So now I have more =P

Ville & Deron fic has been cut down, still over 2000 words but it's neater. Now it still needs a total re-write to make it, you know, better. And since it has Ville Valo in it, and he is a lot more popular than Deron Miller, I'm gonna be sneaky and join Ville slash comms to pimp it out =P

oiL songs do make me stupidly happy. Deron doing happy poppy music! What the hell is not to like? =D *dances*